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Cocoon Hell

Russell writes

"Well, I've spent the last week or so working with Cocoon and I give up. I can't get any real work done with it, so I'm moving on." - Russell Beattie via Marc Canter

Right on the ball.  I played around with Cocoon, but gave up on it eventually.  I find Java still good for server works, but found JSP and Struts to be inappropriate for a lot of applications.  I now discourage my clients from using Java if they don't have a significant Java resources already in place.  Dolts who read a few Java books and passed Java certification tests don't qualify as significant Java resources.  For most applications, going with PHP or Python will get you the same thing for a lot cheaper to create and evolve.  I am warming up to ASP.NET as well.

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That project has moved down in priority below PGP Signature plugin for Acrobat and Newspaper UI. To learn about BHO, browse MSDN for info and codeproject.com for examples. I can send you a version of an explorer bar named IEDocMon (from codeproject.com) hacked to run Python script inside IE that manipulates DHTML DOM. I use extension shell for development because BHO is a chore to develop with. Turning it into a BHO is a no brainer if you know BHO.
Thank you very much for the IEDocMon hint!

Oops. I sent it to your pault.com address. I hope its OK. Capturing events is no problem, its just more COM code. Most of the trouble I had was in coercing win32com into recognizing existing IDispatch objects so I can use Python to manipulate IE. The code is pretty messy, so you have to do some exploration of your own to figure things out. You can throw out the primitive Python debug/trace harness I put together. It was helpful only while I was lost.
BTW, I have an older version that used Lua (actually LuaPlus) instead of Python.
pault.com would not work ;-(

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