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Simply Awful

As Tim Bray wrote, something is badly out of control when some well-known bloggers create an environment that breeds threats of death and sexual abuse. The victim in this case is Kathy Sierra, author of wonderful and clueful Creating Passionate Users. She is now too scared to even go out and her ETech session had to be cancelled.

I rarely pick on individuals on my blog. When I have to vent, I try to vent out at companies. But this is the kind of bullshit that I would even defend my worst enemy against so I am making an exception.

Kathy points to two websites, meankids.org and unclebobism.wordpress.com [UPDATE: Bob's Yer Uncle site was started by Chris Locke], both apparently started by Frank Paynter who wrote on Feb. 8th:

Who’s the real meanie and what does that mean anyway? Who will the Mean Kids pick on next? Kathy Sierra? Doc Searls? IBM is a Linux shop for goodness sakes, don’t tell me none of that rubs off on Doc.

And today, he commented at Tim Bray's blog:

Kathy mentions me prominently in her post. I am mortified by what happened and have done my best to help her through this. I will post a more detailed response at some time in the future when my own shame and anguish has diminished enough to permit clarity.

You are mortified that readers of MeanKids.org could be so mean? This is what happens when you create a website whose theme is to gang up on fellow bloggers! Were you expecting meaningful discussions after throwing rotten tomato at people? The damage is done and Kathy will never be the same. What use is your shame and anguish to her?

Update:

This is what Frank Paynter wrote, supposedly after his shame and anguish diminished enough to permit clarity:

MeanKids was purposeful anarchy. [...] Misogynistic postings at MeanKids.org led me to try to moderate, but indeed the group there was of the “You Own Your Own Words” tradition, so moderating or central editorial control wouldn’t work. I tore the site down.

[...] 

A core group that gathered at both these sites includes people I consider important artists, thinkers, and writers. Most of those who posted were not posting the kind of hurtful trash that made Kathy feel threatened. Some of the stuff was brilliant. Some was interesting. Some was mundane.

It makes no sense to expect moderation to work in purposeful anarchy. What was he trying to accomplish? Pan the river of nastyness for nuggets of brilliance? Based on what Frank wrote above, he suggested Kathy Sierra as one of the people Mean Kids should pick on. Did Kathy ask for a gang of intellectual anarchist to pick on her? All I read form Frank's post of clarity is pointing fingers at others and admitting his inability to control an intentionally uncontrollable situation when, IMHO, he is directly responsible for letting his naivety and vain pursuit of brilliant conversations hurt others.

How did that go? The road to Hell is paved with good intentions? So fucking true.

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Well, actually she did, in this comment:

http://listics.com/20070208903
But, she may not have really written that comment.
Yeah, I don't think Kathy wrote that. When Kathy recovers, she can clarify.

BTW, your position is reasonable. It's just that I am angry which interferes with thinking.
I understand, and I respect your anger. Such threats of violence should make all people angry. And the two web sites were appalling.

It's just the two are not the same.
Majestic   at 2007/03/27 03:32:16 AM
Couldn't agree more.

Sounds like Paynter is trying to write the book on purposeful anarchy. This whole disgusting turn of events should make a for a good eulogy. The only "purpose" in Paynter's anarchy was purposefully directing it at individuals, instead of the very ideas he originally claimed to challenge.

If anyone's going to create "purposeful anarchy" in a place as radically changing and unstable as the blogosphere, it had better be directed at ideas, not individuals. Without the moderating restraints, sexually explicit verbal abuse and images should have been expected. Until Paynter proves otherwise, "purposeful anarchy" could be this year's most promising oxymoron.
Free speech you stupid nigger
Free speech you stupid nigger
54545, if are going to call me names, at least pick one that fits my profile. For example, "blind idiot" would fit you well.
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