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People who think Scoble is overreacting should read this cached post from Mean Kids:

Maryam Scoble - the internet's most annoying pregnancy
[DELETED: use the link to cache if you really need to see it for yourself because I can't stand having the filth on my blog any longer now that enough people have read it.] 

That was a post at MeanKids.org, not a comment. Who wrote it? Comment to the post by someone named Joey mentioned Frank. Not sure which Frank. [see update below]

Maryam is a sweet talented girl. "how now brown sow"? She doesn't deserve this kind of crap from chicken shits hiding behind free speech.

It's good to see Doc Searls wading into this mess. I hope he can make some sense of it all for us because I am too angry to even make the attempt. BTW, I am not angry at the people who wrote trash like above. Free speech is free speech and idiots will say idiotic things. I am angry at people who thought it was a good idea to create a site like MeanKids, a den of meanness-junkies disguised as intellectuals who robs sense of safety and acceptance from a pregnent woman to feed their addiction.

Update:

According to Mary Hodder who checked Bloglines cache, it was posted by Rev ED. An email from Frank Paynter also confirmed that it wasn't him. In fact, that very post prompted him to close MeanKids.org down. My sincere apology to Frank Paynter for not being careful enough to prevent readers from assuming Frank wrote the post. As to who Rev ED or Joey might be, we'll probably never know because, according to Frank Paynter, the database has been destroyed.

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Wow. I kept seeing statements elsewhere that Maryam was "mentioned". This is so much worse than I had imagined.
Well, to call it "mentioned" would be like saying Jesus "met" Romans.

Today I've learned that anger sheathed in reason brings trickling rain.
Anyone unclear on where the line is?

Right after the word "California."

Whatever genius wrote this sure as hell crossed it, and had to know it. Come pick on somebody your own size.
Poor Maryam. I can understand why you re-posted this, but it's probably only adding to her distress and humiliation - not cool when she's with child. Just sayin'. Maryam, stay strong.
Jackie, I had some reservations too. I was going to remove it once things quiet down but if Maryam or Scoble would rather have me do it earlier, all they have to do is let me know. I don't want to cause more hurt to chase MeanKids.
Sigh. I hope some action is taken against those who did this. There are so many posts around, but I still am not understanding the "Why" part.

Btw, this looks like an early-warning for activity we will increasingly see on the internet. And soon we might need some filtering mechanism for "hate", given that anonymity should be protected at all costs.
I'm glad you posted this, and left the link to cached post. I, like most people following this story, knew nothing about meankids. (I heard the name once -- Kathy Sierra mentioned it during her SXSW keynote.)

Now that I've actually seen what they were up to, I'm stunned. WTF were these people thinking? These are intelligent and probably affluent adults, not 17-year-old trailer-trash skinheads. It just doesn't compute, and leaves me agreeing with Scoble that they all deserve every last bit of trouble they find themselves in.
what I don't buy is the half tacit excuse that doc searls posted for alan.
I find it to be the worst half baked excuse this side of highschool.

If, if his identity was "stolen" wouldn't it be in his best interest to take control of his site, email his colleagues and friends about it. and not say, delete one of his own blogs?

it reeks of falsehood.
Case, I feel the same way but I like Doc too much and I would rather pretend to live in a brighter world than a bleek twisty world of liars. Join me in my delusion of preference.

At the core, I don't believe in anything. The truth is harsh, like standing naked in the middle of an eternal shit storm. An overcoat of harmless lies helps. Fuck, it's essential if one doesn't want to puke every morning.
I saw that comment in another cache, and it's horrible. There was a lot of harmless spleen-venting on Mean Kids prior to that, but it was clearly the point at which the site was going off the rails.

<i>As to who Rev ED or Joey might be, we'll probably never know ...</i>

Joey linked to his blog on Mean Kids and has responded to Sierra's allegations on her blog. He's not someone else posting under a fake name, as some people have suggested.
Right. According to some of the comments he wrote, he is "retired" and has "a few million dollars in the bank."
According to an email <a href="http://doc.weblogs.com/2007/03/28#whatItIsnt"> Harrel sent Doc Searles</a>, Allen Harrel is also a victim:

<i>
I am writing this to you as the guy who can forward it to everybody that matters.

I am writing this from a new computer, using an email address that will be deleted at the end of this.

I am no longer me. My main machine despite my best efforts has been hacked, my accounts compromised including my email. and has been disconnected from the internet.

How did this happen? When did this happen? ..... I thought i was pretty sharp. I guess not.

just about every online account that i have has been compromised. Most importantly my digital identity and user/password for typepad and wordpress. I have been doing damage control, for my clients. How the fuck i got to be part of this mess is revolting.

The Kathy Sierra mess is horrific. I am not who ever used my identity and my picture!!

I am sick beyond words over this whole episode. Kathy Sierra may not be on my top 10 list , but nobody deserves this filthy character assaination.

[snip]

For Kathy and Maryam and anybody else I am deeply sorry. Nobody deserves this.
</i>

I think it is important to close the loop.
According to an email Harrel sent Doc Searles, Allen Harrel is also a victim:

http://doc.weblogs.com/2007/03/28#whatItIsnt

"I am writing this to you as the guy who can forward it to everybody that matters.

I am writing this from a new computer, using an email address that will be deleted at the end of this.

I am no longer me. My main machine despite my best efforts has been hacked, my accounts compromised including my email. and has been disconnected from the internet.

How did this happen? When did this happen? ..... I thought i was pretty sharp. I guess not.

just about every online account that i have has been compromised. Most importantly my digital identity and user/password for typepad and wordpress. I have been doing damage control, for my clients. How the fuck i got to be part of this mess is revolting.

The Kathy Sierra mess is horrific. I am not who ever used my identity and my picture!!

I am sick beyond words over this whole episode. Kathy Sierra may not be on my top 10 list , but nobody deserves this filthy character assaination.

[snip]

For Kathy and Maryam and anybody else I am deeply sorry. Nobody deserves this."

I think it is important to close the loop.
<i>Right. According to some of the comments he wrote, he is "retired" and has "a few million dollars in the bank."</i>

I don't know about that stuff, but I found him, found his blogs and personal photo space and have exchanged e-mail with him to dig around the origins of Mean Kids. People who are suggesting he's somebody else's fake name to post attacks are incorrect.
Hmm. I don't know about exposing his identity in public but maybe the best thing to do is to forward the info to Kathy and let her decide.
Nevermind. Apparently, Kathy already has Joey's IP address and "siftee", who sent the death threat email, has been fully identified in the comment thread to Kathy's post.

Siftee is sorry, Joey is accusing Kathy of taking revenge on book critics, and Rev ED (if that really was him in the comments) is, er, laughing in all caps.

A rather weird ending to this drama but I think it's an ending of sort nonetheless.

FIN
Why act like hate speech, idiocy, and insanity are something New & Unexpected?

Life itself, the MSM, the blogosphere, grade schools, Grand Theft Auto, the entire world is full of vile talk, violence against women and children (especially: war), genocide, racism.

This doesn't mean I approve of it, as I am an ethical anarchist and pacifist. But I am quite disturbed at how Kathy Sierra seems to have possibly overblown certain details in this case, and the knee jerk expressions of sympathy and outrage seem a bit fake in some ways.

I stand for the 9 core values of blogging, so don't think I am trying to dilute the sickness of some remarks on Mean Kids, which was a stupid idea to begin with.
Vaspers, this is not about news and surprises nor punishing the mundane. By your argument, flailing under hysteria is not new nor unexpected either.

I believe a human society is like a caged bear and should be respected as such. It shouldn't surprise anyone to get mauled when they toy with it.

The lesson to be learned from Kathy incident is that an organized campaign of personal attacks borders unacceptable behavior and doing so unmoderated invites fools whose antics will push the group as a whole into the 'cage'.
So true. I use comment moderation with delayed posting, but I never delete comments that are abusive to me or contrary to my opinions. I only delete spam or vulgar language comments. Angry disagreement is encouraged.

But captchas/word verification tests are only useful to prevent massive spambot attacks. Otherwise, they cause even sincere human comment posters a lot of problems, sometimes being unreadable by human eyes.
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